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How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« on: September 16, 2008, 04:52:30 pm »
Hydro and I got together last night to replace his brake lines and bleed his brake system (those who were at the track on Saturday know why  :P). We figured this might come in handy for those out there who are thinking about doing the upgrade themselves. If you can turn a wrench and handle a screwdriver, you can replace the brake lines. The basic logic to this upgrade is that the stock lines are rubber and thus flexible/expansive under braking. This reduces pedal feel and in extreme cases can lead to a rupture and a complete loss of braking ability.

Before you start, make sure you have all the tools you need. This includes a variety of socket sizes (I believe they were mostly 10 mm), screwdrivers, pliers and flare wrenches.

The first step is of course to get the car on jack stands. To jack up the front, use the crossmember/plate behind the skid plate. For the rear, use the rear differential. Place the jack stands just inside of the pinch welds along the side.






Next, remove the wheels, front and rear.







You can see the brake line running away from the caliper here, this is what we want to replace.




Before you undo a single bolt, make sure you have a pan underneath to catch the brake fluid. Be warned, brake fluid smells horrible and eats paint, if any gets on the car or caliper, wipe it off immediately. Now would also be a good time to clean your calipers and remove any mud or dirt from the wheel well, struts, etc.



There are three bolts/screws on the front that need to be removed/loosened.
There is one bolt on the caliper.



When you remove it, fluid will come out.




Another bolt holds the brake line to a bracket on the strut.




Finally, the flexible brake line is held to the hard line coming from the rest of the brake system.




In order to release the flexible line, a clip needs to be removed. This clip is replaced with a different clip provided with the lines. You can see the clip here.



Take note of the arrangement shown below, when putting the hardware back, you need to repeat it. It goes bolt, washer, line then washer again.



A comparison between the old lines and the new lines. The new lines are slightly longer but they still work fine. I presume that was done for tolerance reasons.



To install the new lines, simply work backwards. It's easiest if you start at the rear and move towards the caliper. Attach the bracket last so you can slide it as needed.










Repeat for the other side.

Now for the rear brakes.




Again, now is a good time to clean the calipers and remove dirt and buildup from the brackets.






Once again there are three bolts/screws.

There is a bolt on the caliper.



As with the front, there is a clip holding the flexible line to the hard line. This clip is replaced with one provided in the kit.





The bracket holding the line to the strut is behind the strut and uses a clip. This clip is reused.




With the old lines removed, you may want to wipe down the bracket. Exercise common sense, cover the hose when wiping dust and dirt away.



As before, to install the new lines, simply work backwards.







A shot of the new clips. These are used at all four corners.



The new rear lines installed.



For this install, Goodrich lines were used. The install should be the same regardless of the manufacturer.





Now for the fun of bleeding the brake lines. I don't have pictures of this as I was involved in it rather than just floating around watching. The process is fairly basic but two people are a must. The order you want to go is front right (passenger side), rear left (driver side), front left, rear right.

Step one would be to fill the brake reservoir. Throughout the rest of the procedure, the reservoir must stay full. If it is allowed to empty, you'll get air in the lines and have to start all over again.
With the reservoir filled, have someone fully depress the brake pedal and hold. Open the outside bleeder screw to release any air in the system. Close the bleeder screw and have the other person release the brake pedal slowly so it returns to the top. Repeat this until no air comes out of the bleeder screw (ie. only fluid comes out). Do this again for the inside bleeder screw.

Be sure to select a quality brake fluid that is consistent with your needs. If you simply drive around town, OEM quality should be fine. If you track the car, a more race oriented product would be wise. Motul and Amsoil are two reputable manufacturers. Racing quality fluid is less prone to boiling which makes it superior for applications where the brakes get very hot and don't have a lot of opportunities to cool down (ie. racing).



The last step is to put the wheels back on and take the car for a test drive. Start by braking at low speeds just in case.






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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2008, 05:39:22 pm »
You can also get a product called "Speed Bleeders" that has a sprung ball bearing in the bleed screw.  You undo it a 1/4 turn, then pump the pedal until the air is out.  This allows you to bleed the brakes solo.  Worked great on my car.  I think they're $20 or something.

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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2008, 05:55:34 pm »
Great how to ;D
Thanks! I'll be doing it soon
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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2008, 08:47:51 pm »
Thanks guys, I need to get on this someday!

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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2008, 09:16:01 pm »
Fantastic write up and excellent contribution to the Forum.

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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2008, 09:18:35 pm »
agreed, thanks for the step by step in depth how-to guide, will be tons of help when i get around to this!

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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2008, 09:23:43 pm »
Another way to bleed the brakes solo is with a vacuum pump, some old schoolers do it just with gravity.

Also be sure to wash down with water to dilute the fluid left on the calipers/other parts. Also it's a good idea to rinse the tools you used with water as well so that if you place them on a painted part of the car later you don't leave a mark.

+1 for the write-up as well, thanks for taking the time.

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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2008, 11:08:43 pm »
Great write-up and photos.  I don't know if you realize this, but your model looks very manly.  :P

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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2008, 09:30:12 am »
Really appreciate you taking the time/effort to make this how-to.  Great work!
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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2008, 09:39:44 am »
Yea, thanks for documenting this guys!  :)

and you got such a pretty model too. ;)

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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2008, 10:00:01 am »
Great addition for sure... I've always wanted to do this... now I know how.
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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2008, 11:03:53 am »
My plan is to do this too.  Thanks for the write-up.  It should help lots.

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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2008, 11:02:11 pm »
Nice work Nick.  I'll take back all the "lazy" comments and rumors I was spreading about you!   ;D

Just kidding..........about taking the comments back!  Hahaha.

Honestly, great work and thanks for all the help! 

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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 12:13:53 am »
Lol, no problem, I'm free to take pictures of you working any time.
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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2008, 12:26:08 am »
Nice work! Far better pictures than any service manual i've used.

Well done, Thanks.

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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2008, 08:00:45 am »
Nice tutorial guys!

I wonder if we should have a tutorial or install section?

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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2008, 08:14:24 am »
so far, theres just that technical threads of note area... thats kinda our How To Forum :)

Anyways, great writeup Nick!
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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2009, 12:11:39 am »
Bump for the GB  ;D

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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2009, 12:14:34 pm »
Yea, I think he was bumping it up so that those in the GB would know how to install 'em.

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Oh yeah... I see that now. :P
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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2009, 12:54:31 pm »
Nice how-to and perfect timing for the S.S Brake line group buy 8)

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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2009, 08:11:14 pm »
nice write up.  when it's not -200 outside,.. i've gotta get this going on my car.  :)

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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2009, 08:16:08 am »
Yea, definately don't do what I did and try to install these puppies when its -26 below without washing your car....

God that was cold and dirty....  Slush eevvverrrryyyywhere.....

Last time I do that :)

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Re: How-to: Replace Brake Lines
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2009, 11:07:34 am »
Couple of tips from our weekend experience doing this on two cars.

1) The clips at the hard line/soft line connection wiggle them back and fourth to make it easy to remove them.  If you try to just yank them straight out its really easy for your pliers to slip and your hand to hit various objects.

2) The hard line bolt/connection.  Be very careful when undoing this, this was stripped on one and almost on a second one.  Make sure that your wrench is on there really good.  Take your time on this connection.